The Concept of Idolatry (Murthy Puja) in Hinduism

By Ravi Soni


In Hinduism , there are two school of thoughts ,”Adwaita” and “Daita”. Adwaita considers God as one and universal power. In “Daita” ,Vedas and other scriptures consider God in everything. Dwaita also considers that God is in Human being and he has shape same as Human Being. Human likes to see everyone like what they are. So they also shape God as Humans. Dwaita also goes beyond one step by considering each and every live element as God substance. Because ultimately Dwaita and Adwaita meets in the end.

You can not bound your thoughts by just one way that God can not be in idol. Who says God is only in Idol? Hindus say that God is also there in Idol. If we assume God to be in any Human being , and if that man does something against morals ,then the image of God can be deteriorated. So we assume God to be in Idol which in a way an effigy of God which “actually” dont do anything but in a spiritual way its supreme image of God. So That Idol connects us with God. You can call that Idol as connection between you and God.

All ,who worship idol with full of love and devotion to God , are more likely to understand fact that God is not only in that idol, but also he is with me and he is with everyone. Idol clears your routine life from sins. Idol as a monitor keeps an eye on you and your regular work to make yourself more like good man. If it is made compulsory that you have to go to temple regularly once in a day, you will have some hesitation to go to temple if you have done something wrong. So you will automatically make sure that you dont do anything wrong which does not fit into general moral consciences. On the contrary if you believe in God who is not visible from your eyes, you are more likely to do something which you can hide from God because “actually” he is not looking at your deeds because you believe God to be supreme but not within you!!!.

Hindus actually believe in both the things (Murty Puja and Universal God). Krishna says in Bhagavad Geeta “If you believe in Monotheism, you will get love of God but it will take time (and requires extreme Concentration or mental ability to believe in things which is not visible to eyes.) but again if you pray Me(Krishna) , you will definitely get me in lesser time (Krishna as God) ( because you are logically convinced that God(Krishna) is in front of you and you have to please him so you have an image of whom you are praying).” This is why we Hindus believe in Idolatry (Murty Puja).
You should proud of it, if you logically pray it.

 

The author Ravi Soni is a  MBA student from Pune, Maharashtra and is inspired by thoughts of Param Pujya Pandurang Shashtri Athawale.

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  1. Proud Indian (noyill11@gmail.com) says

    Wow… then y not make an idol of Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Kingkong, Tarzan, Terminators, Aliens, Ra-One etc and worship. This will be more practical and your children can relate very easily because they have seen their actions. Your kids might get bored of the old stories of Rama, Sita, Ravana, Hanuman, Krishna, Pandavas etc… so give them their todays Heros they will easily connect to God and their belief will grow stronger….
    My dear bro…your ancestors were confused and now you are confused….pls dont confuse your future generations. So please come to the correct path…the right path and the right Religion… Where God is only one, God has no companion nor family.

  2. Arjun says

    The only one confused here seems to be you with your god is only ‘one’ nonsense.Cant your god count beyond a One number because hes too thick ?

  3. Ravi Soni says

    God can’t be Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Kingkong, Tarzan, Terminators, Aliens, Ra-One etc ONLY because they dont exist. Hindus believe GOD element in everyone. GOD is in evils, atheist, Hindus, Muslims everyone. The only thing is to realize it. Many fools believe that GOD is not here with us. GOD is one and he is in SKY.
    Do you believe that your father is in sky but he exist? NO… If yes, you need to see a doctor.
    People who created philosophy of Idolatry were not fool. They gave path of Monotheism after Polytheism. Approaching direct to Monotheism is difficult for a common man. So our ancestors showed us path of Monotheism through Polytheism.

    Question Why Krishna, Durga , Shiva etc.?
    Why we dont pray Bhima? Why we dont consider him as a God? Why we dont pray Valmiki? Why we dont consider him as a GOD?
    Answer is They were not GOD.
    Our ancestors had a clear understanding of Concept of GOD. Limitation of our knowledge and understanding does not allow us to understand that concept.

  4. Mrs Hansa Patel says

    It is most enjoyable to be Hindu and learn about Hinduism for anyone as the stories we have in our foundation builds strong characters.Than we can hear and learn about any other religion and respect the good that comes with them.We were born and brought up in Africa with the British rule.A lot of our childhood stories besides Ramayan and Mahabharat were the classic fairy tales.On comming to England we saw the fairy tales come to some life in pantomimes and our day to day living.But with the foundation of Hinduism we could see God present in the Christian way of life too. In fact we have a prayer in which we consider Ishu Pita as prabu.There is also Ishvar Allah tero nam and more.Such generous outlook of Hinduism gives an individual the vastness of the sky.Hindu dhrama is most beautiful and people like Ramanad Sagar and Pandurang Shastri have made it extremely enjoyable.

  5. Arjun says

    Mr Ravi Soni, Well if Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Kingkong, Tarzan, Terminators, Aliens, dont exist then what proof have you that even god exists ? Your whole ‘idea’ of a monotheist one ‘god’ is completely moronic and backward from the start so how will you understand what the divine essence is.Your monotheism ‘one’ god has more in common with your one A-hole between your buttocks from where you are talking from which would be better off having your One god shoved right up it.

  6. Ravi Soni says

    @Arjun You question itself has an answer. You can prove that batman etc does not exist because they imagination of an author But You can not prove that Krishna, Brahma, Shiva etc does not exist becuase you don’t know that.
    You can not reject any thought simple because you dont know.
    If you dont know whether Krishna, Shiva, Shakti etc exist or not, does not mean you will simply stand against argument of their existence.
    Man who sleep before sunset and wake up after sunrise always argueabout existence of darkness. That does not mean darkness does not exist.
    About Monotheism, I would love to learn something about monotheism from you. If you dont know anything, you can not reject my point.

  7. Arjun says

    I do believe batman superman, Batman, Spiderman, Kingkong, Tarzan, Terminators, Aliens, do exist because ive seen the movies so whats your point.I know krishna and shiva because the divine essence is in everything so whats your point?

    You want to learn about monotheism then pick up the koran or the bible and learn what monotheism really is and then learn how british colonialists during 19th century defined hinduism within a monotheist framework which hindus then used to misinterpret their own religion namely the bramo samaj then the arya samaj and many other groups including the forerunners of neo sikhism which is had lead to khalistan movement.

    Thats what your confused and backward monotheism of some barbarians in the middle east has lead to and it also shows the inferiority complex that some hindus like yourself have trying to show that Hinduism is somehow monotheist.You can check the following articles from chakra itself to educate yourself out of the darkness of monotheism to see sunset.Lets

    Hindu Spirituality Versus Monotheism
    http://www.chakranews.com/hindu-spirituality-versus-monotheism/1146

    The Origins of Monothiesm in Hindu Dharma
    http://www.chakranews.com/the-origins-of-monothiesm-in-hindu-dharma/1141

    De-Monotheising the Human Mind the Hindu Way
    http://www.chakranews.com/de-monotheising-the-human-mind-the-hindu-way/2138

  8. Mrs Hansa Patel says

    What do you want to find about Hindu Dharm is all written in black and white in the the holly Geeta, the great epics the Ramayan and the Mahabharat and the Vedas and the Upnishad and other many other scriptures. If it is not in these scriptures it is not in the world..The ways of the Gods and Goddesses are never ending.There is also Rishis and Maharishis to be read and understood.If you nwant a morden day example of a Hindu Dharm try and know and understand the ways of the founder of the Art of Living movement-Sri Sri Ravi Shanker and be amazed at how Hindu Dhram can shpe the future with peace and prosperity.

  9. Ravi Soni says

    As I told you, Hinduism also contains monotheism. Read Adwaita Siddhanta and read Shankaracharya “Chidarambrupm Shivoham Shivoham” also read some more scripture of Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya has written many books about monotheism and polytheism. Why you are reading books of other religion if Hinduism is capable enough to satisfy your thirst of knowledge,
    Shankaracharya was way before westerns came to India so you cant doubt his knowledge.
    We are much knowledgeable than any other race in the world and I proud of that only because of our ancestors.
    Hinduism is not defined by anyone. We were never hindus. Hindu name is given by Britishers to just classify us into some religion. We were always vedanta believers. Giving name does not mean giving religious knowledge.
    Hinduism is not only monotheist. Its combination of both.

    Hindu views are broad and range from monism, through pantheism and panentheism (alternatively called monistic theism by some scholars) to monotheism and even atheism. Hinduism cannot be said to be purely polytheistic, as all great[weasel words] Hindu religious leaders have repeatedly stressed that while God’s forms are many and the ways to communicate with him are many, God is one.[citation needed] The puja of the murti is a way to communicate with the abstract one God (Brahman) which creates, sustains and dissolves creation.[14]
    Rig Veda 1.164.46,
    Indra? mitra? varu?amaghnim?huratho divya? sa supar?o gharutm?n,
    eka? sad vipr? bahudh? vadantyaghni? yama? m?tari?v?nam?hu?
    “They call him Indra, Mitra, Varu?a, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garuda.
    To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, M?tari?van.”
    (trans. Griffith) (ref wikipedia)

    read Hinduism section of this article.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism

    Krishna has told in Geeta that Monotheism is one of the ways to follow to achieve God. I have never heard any westerns or middle east about it.
    Read Geeta first and then talk to me.

  10. Arjun says

    It seems you didnt even read the links or least understand them and you are still confusing monism with monotheism ..You dont seem to have much knowledge about how the monotheism disease came into hinduism either. Just by your following quote shows you are totally confused and think monotheism is some complicated concept that common man cant understand.

    ‘Approaching direct to Monotheism is difficult for a common man. So our ancestors showed us path of Monotheism through Polytheism'”

    What nonsense that means islam and Christianity must be way advance with monotheist God.You think what polytheism is backward ? its from polytheist cultures that scientific and other advance concepts including the arts and philosophy all came from just like the zero came from the hindus.Show one ancient monotheist society that also produced anything on that level apart from destruction.Hinduism may not be polytheist in essence but its platform of expression is.

    Read those links properly as they are from professional and well recognized Indian scholars and not westerners .If you want to challenge their work then show me where they are wrong and where you are right.

    Again you are taking quotes out of vedas and confusing it as a monotheist ‘one’ god with Brahman because you dont understand vedic metaphoric symbolism ..
    Since when has wikipdedia become an expert of hinduism ?what a joke

  11. Mrs Hansa Patel says

    It is not up to you to judge whether one understands the Vedic metaphoric symbolism or not.The fact is that the Vedic roots of the Sanatan Hindu Dhram are as deep as the beginning of Time. From the symbol Ohm starts all.It depends upon the Individual as to how far one wishes to do their search. The destruction that was because of the brutal invaders to the Vedic land.Not that the Dharm of the people had anything to do with it.

  12. Arjun says

    Hansa,Its very obvious that Ravi is confusing monism with monotheism because hes hasnt tried to understand the Vedic World view which hes bringing down to monotheism which he thinks is superior. if someone doesnt even understand the language of what Vedas in its metaphors and symbols then why start preaching a misinterpretation like the max mullers and other indologists of the 19 century have done so far.

  13. Ravi Soni says

    @Arjun, Dont put discussion into meaning of words. As per me, Monotheism means One God, Polytheism means many Gods(Many ways to worship God) Its not worth to discuss with someone who does not willing to accept any point by rationale.

  14. Arjun says

    know what monotheism means very well and ive repeated it here already a few times on this thread.What rationale are you talking about do you even understand what it means ? I can understand that its hard to suddenly because caught out that all along that this backward and primitive idea of monotheism you thought was so advance turned out to be totally infantile.You said yourself that ”Approaching direct to Monotheism is difficult for a common man. So our ancestors showed us path of Monotheism through Polytheism.’ Thats beyond a joke and shows your lack of knowledge.Where’s your historical evidence for that statement ?

    I see again you have avoided to read those links which could enlighten you on your confusion .Read here for some more exposure on monotheism by dr koenraad elst..You can even contact him personally with your monotheist theory..

    Vedic monotheism? 1. The dawn of monotheism

    Monotheism is not merely the cult of a single god, which would be called henotheism, but also implies the active rejection of all other gods. The recipient of monotheistic worship is not Heis Theos, “one god”, but Ho Monos Theos, “the only god”. Thus, Hindus worshipping an ishta devata, “chosen deity”, selected from among many, are henotheists but not monotheists. A Hindu who never worships any god except Shiva, but doesn’t object to his neighbour’s worshipping Krishna or Durga, fails the test of monotheism.

    1.1. Akhenaten’s solar monotheism

    At the present state of knowledge, the first recorded monotheist was Pharaoh Akhenaten or Ekhnaton (r. 1351-1334 BC). He not only worshipped a single god, the solar disc Aten, but also tried to terminate the worship of other gods, starting with the removal of Amon from his own original name Amenhotep (“Amon is satisfied”), which he replaced with Akhen-Aten (“Living spirit of Aten”). Later, his son would make the reverse movement, changing his own name from Tut-ankh-Aten (“Living image of Aten”) to Tut-ankh-Amon. Akhenaten’s monotheism didn’t survive him for long because it went against the grain of Egyptian culture and sensibilities.

    Perhaps he could have made people accept his religion sincerely if he had at least combined it with political successes and prosperity. In his own new capital Akhet-Aten (“Horizon of the Aten”, Amarna) he concentrated a community of followers that enjoyed privileges provided for from the state treasury, which means the rest of the people had to subsidize his socio-religious experiment. His foreign policy was a disaster, he neglected diplomacy and military fortifications and thus greatly weakened his empire. After his death, the Egyptians tried to quickly forget him.

    Akhenaten’s present popularity, attested by his enormous overrepresentation in textbooks on ancient Egypt, is a consequence of the plentiful and innovative artworks depicting him, his chief wife Nefertiti and his Aten cult; and mostly of his monotheism, deemed uniquely meritorious. Since Moses, the founder of Israelite monotheism, lived in Egypt about a generation after Akhenaten, it is widely assumed the Pharaoh influenced the Prophet.

    1.2. Moses’ monotheism

    Moses found his One God when he was living in the desert as a guest of Jethro, the priest of the Beduins of Midian (Exodus 2:15 ff.), a region in the northwestern corner of Arabia where he had fled to as a fugitive from Egyptian criminal justice, wanted for manslaughter. He experienced an audio-visual sensation while looking into a burning bush, a desert plant from which an ethereal oil evaporates that catches fire in the noontime heat. A voice told him to take off his shoes as he was standing on hallowed ground, i.e. in the presence of a divine being. The god, when asked by Moses for his name, introduced himself as “I am that I am” (eheyeh asher eheyeh). Biblically, this is understood as a hint at the name Yahweh, interpreted through approximative folk etymology as “the Being One”, “the One Who Is”; or by later exegetes with airs of profundity, as “the One Whose Essence is Being”.

    In fact, as the great Orientalist Julius Wellhausen has shown, the name Yahweh is Arabic (its root is attested in the Quran) and means “the Blower”, apparently the Beduin god of wind and storm. Egypt’s Nile Valley has an extremely stable climate with endless sunshine, but the desert is subjected to sand storms, hence the logic of Moses’ replacing the Pharaoh’s sun god with a storm god.

    After having fallen from grace in Egypt, Moses fashioned himself a new career as the national leader of the Semitic immigrant population in Egypt, which he led away to Palestine. Along the way, in the wilderness of Sinai, he staged a show with smoke and trumpets and had the gullible people believe that he had seen God on the mountain and received the Ten Commandments from Him. These consist of two unrelated parts. The second part is age-old general morality of the “thou shalt not kill” and “thou shalt not commit adultery” type. Of course people don’t need a divine revelation to know that societies couldn’t function for long without such a set of basic rules. Other nations didn’t bring God in and called these rules the mos maiorum, “the ancestral customs”, tried and tested by ages of practice. In this case, however, they were tagged on as a second half to the first set of commandments, which by contrast went completely against the tradition. Rendered more acceptable by the coupling with indisputable rules of morality, this first part was quite revolutionary, viz. Moses’ new theology. This included a prohibition on using God’s name lightly (a taboo also found in other religions), on making images of God, and most of all, on offering worship to any god beside Yahweh.

    The first thing Moses did when he came down from the Sinai mountain with his rock-hewn Ten Commandments was to slaughter 3000 religious dissenters. These were enthusiasts of Ba’al, “Lord”, originally a generic term of address for kings and gods, later used specifically for the Northwest-Semitic fertility god Hadad. He is known from Semitic royal names like Jeze-bel, Bel-shazzar, Hanni-bal and Bal-thazar. This traditional fertility god was typically depicted as a bull. For the purposes of worship, the devotees in the Sinai had fashioned a statue (what Hindus call a mûrti) of the bull god from their own jewelry: the “Golden Calf”.

    Nowadays this term is used as shorthand for crass materialism and greed, as if this moral vice were needed to justify the devotees’ mass slaughter by Moses. In fact, they were anything but greedy, they donated their wealth in exchange for the joy of having a focus for their religious exercise of worshipping Ba’al. It was not because of a moral vice that they were put to death, but only because they worshipped another god than Yahweh. The latter could not tolerate this since he was, in his own words (as reported from Mount Sinai by Moses), “a jealous god”.

    Moses did not live to see the conquest of the Promised Land, of which he only caught a glimpse from afar. His successor Joshua devised a clever strategy of keeping the non-combatants concentrated outside the war zone and attacking the cities one by one. Citing orders from God, he eliminated the native fellow-Semitic population, the Canaanites. This he justified with a promise which he claimed Yahweh had made long before (scholars’ estimate: 4 to 5 centuries) to the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Note that the natives were not asked for their theological opinions. They were not killed because of their polytheism, and it seems unlikely that they could have saved themselves by quickly converting. At that time, Yahweh was still the god of a nation, not of a community of like-minded believers.

    1.3. Henotheistic origins

    It is widely assumed among scholars that the Yahweh cult was initially henotheistic rather than monotheistic. Yahweh insisted that his followers worship only him and no other gods, but this did not immediately imply that other gods were deemed non-existent and illusory. “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”, the first of the Ten Commandments, can be read as a husband’s claim on the absolute loyalty of his wife. By no means does such a husband deny the existence of other men, he merely demands that his wife disregard all other men and devote herself exclusively to him. In the initial phase, Yahweh’s religion makes no truth claim about the non-existence of other gods, rather it sees them as dangerous seducers who have to be kept at bay. From the 13th to the 7th century BC, Israelite monotheism was in a formative stage of a henotheism increasingly hyperfocused on the chosen One God, leading to the ultimate black-out of the other gods. From seductive rivals to Yahweh, they shrivel to become illusory projections of the human mind.

    This evolution is summarily acted out in the evolution of the Biblical god’s other name, Elohim. In Northwest-Semitic (Canaanite, Ugaritic, Phoenician, Hebrew), this is a masculine plural form, meaning “gods”. The Semites had a god El, whose name lives on in personal names like Gabr-i-el, “my strength is God”, Mi-cha-el, “who is like God?”. In cuneiform, this name was rendered with the sumerogram Dingir, showing a star. That indeed is the original West-Asian concept of the gods: they were stars, collectively “the heavenly host”. One of the oldest epithets of Yahweh is “Lord of Hosts”, i.e. the supergod presiding over the army of gods in their daily march across the sky (which again presupposes that the other gods were real, though lesser in stature). The contrast between polytheism and the first monotheism was quite literally that between the numerous stars in the night sky and the lone star of the day sky.

    A noun derived from El is the feminine abstractive noun Eloha, “a god”, “deity”, better known in its Arabic form Ilâha. This countable noun referred to any of the numerous gods worshipped by the Pagan Arabs. With the South-Semitic definite article al-, this becomes Al-Ilâha, “the god”, better known in its contracted form Allâh. Both in Hebrew Elohim and in Arabic Allâh, we see how the conception of the One and Only God, to judge from his name, is rooted in the polytheistic conception of “god” as a countable noun, “one of the gods”. As if a single star was selected, looked at ever more closely until it outshone and rendered invisible all other stars, and was then reinterpreted as the only star in existence.

    This rootedness in polytheism is found in most languages where the concept of a single God was introduced. To the pre-existing Greek and Latin generic terms theos and deus, “a god”, the emerging Christian Church assigned the new monotheistic meaning “God”. In Germanic, the word god seems to have been a uncountable noun since pre-Christian times, but of neutral (rather than of masculine) gender, i.e. impersonal: “the numinous”, “the divine”. Its Sanskrit etymological equivalent is hutam, “(that which is) honoured with libations/sacrifices”, “(that which is) worshipped”. Here too, the Christian monotheistic term is borrowed from a pre-Christian non-monotheistic conception, viz. of the divine as a numinous essence present in an undefined number of gods and perfectly thinkable apart from a single personal God. In Chinese, Protestant missionaries have chosen the old term Shangdi as their translation of the Biblical names for “God”. They may not have realized that in Chinese, which doesn’t morphologically distinguish plural from singular, this ancient term had been conceived as plural: “the powers on high”, “the gods above”.

    In the 19th century, the idea of an Urmonotheismus, a primeval monotheism, gained ground. It meant that the historically attested polytheistic religions had come into being as aberrations from an older monotheistic religion. Islam had pioneered this idea with its claim that Adam had been the first Muslim and that the Kaaba, built by Adam, had later been usurped by the Pagans for the polytheistic worship which Mohammed found (and destroyed) there. But in the actual history of early monotheism, we find its cradle was polytheistic, with no trace of a reference to an earlier, primeval monotheism.

    1.4. The jealous God

    In polytheistic pantheons, gods with a specific character are typically counterbalanced by gods with the opposite character, e.g. war-like Ares or Mars with harmony-seeking Aphrodite or Venus. No doubt the Arab Beduin storm-god Yahweh had brothers and sisters in the pantheon who represented less stormy traits to keep the whole in balance. If the idea of a single god had been thought up in the abstract, one could have expected him to be neutral, elevated far above all those pairs of opposition. Later thinkers working within a monotheistic framework will indeed try to understand their god in this manner: as a coincidentia oppositorum, “unity of opposites” (thus German philosopher Nicolaus Cusanus, 15th cent.). Instead of a war-god held in check by a peace goddess, you would logically get a single god transcending the war/peace opposition.

    However, that is not how monotheism originally came about. When all other gods were outlawed, Yahweh nonetheless retained his character of tribal storm god, but no longer counterbalanced by more pleasant fellow-deities. Though not as sexually playful as the Indo-European storm-gods Indra, Zeus, Jupiter, Perkunas, Perun or Donar (unless you include his begetting Jesus upon the Virgin Mary, and even that fling on the side he outsourced to the Holy Ghost), Yahweh resembles and outdoes them in choleric flare-ups and violent discharges of anger. Thus, his initiative to destroy mankind by means of the Flood was motivated by anger at the disappointing performance of his own human creatures.

    Let Yahweh’s short temper be his privilege and that of his followers, the one thing truly objectionable about him from the viewpoint of the non-believers is only his effort to destroy alternative gods and their religions. Pre-Christian Israelite history is punctuated by episodes of slaughter against non-Yahwists. Thus, the prophet Elijah challenged a group of Ba’al priests to have their god produce a miracle and set fire to a sacrificial animal. Of course miracles don’t exist, so nothing happened; and when Elijah had Yahweh set alight his own sacrifice after he had sprinkled “water” on it, the gullible were taken in, but he had obviously used a trick (petrol?). At any rate, the next thing we know is that he had the 450 Ba’al priests put to death. His own disciple Elisha organized a coup against the Ba’al-worshipping queen Jezebel and killed her and 70 of her relatives.

    However, until the expansion of Christianity, this campaign of destruction was limited to the Israelites or such foreigners as lived among the Israelites and had an influence on them. It did not interfere with the religion of “the nations”. To be sure, there was plenty of slaughter of non-Israelites during the conquest of the Promised Land. But this was simply to make way for the Chosen People, to create living space, not to make them change their religion. On the contrary, it was taken for granted that “the nations” (ha-goyim) had other religions than that of Yahweh: “And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars — all the heavenly array — do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.” (Deuteronomy 4:19)

    You’ve read that right: the heavenly hosts as the gods forbidden to the Israelites, have been “apportioned to all the nations” by Yahweh, who consequently didn’t want them to worship him instead of the gods given to them. This again testifies to the fact that Yahweh was originally conceived as a tribal god, entitled to the loyalty of his own tribe but without universal pretentions (just as a husband is entitled to his wife’s loyalty but not to that of all women).

    The first dim apparition of Yahweh’s universal ambition is perhaps Prophet Isaiah’s fantasy of an end-time in which all nations come to pay tribute to the Israelites and their god in Jerusalem. But it is only later, in the multicultural and universalizing climate of the Hellenistic states (4th-1st cent. BC) and the Roman Empire, that some Israelites start conceiving of their God as universally valid. This didn’t make them embark on massive missionary campaigns, but on a small scale they did start to attract converts or “proselytes”. Jewish thinkers like Philo of Alexandria briefly tried to incorporate notions from Greek philosophy, such as Plato’s “idea of the Good” or Aristotle’s “unmoved mover”, into their conception of God.

    It fell to Christianity to complete this job of incorporating the universalist Greek concepts of the Absolute into the monotheistic construction of God. Because Christianity had universal rather than national ambitions, it made the destruction of everyone else’s “false gods” its chief mission. This same mission was later interiorized and amplified by Mohammed. To the surviving non-monotheistic traditions, monotheism became an all-devouring predator and a self-declared enemy.

  15. one dharma says

    Europeans concept of GOD is ONE GOD OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE…..yezeus, KNOWN today as JEZUZ, a mixed form of the Greek god Zeus and the Jewish god Yeshua. Ye+Zeus= jezuz.

    So just like in ISLAM, where the one god is the ARAB ONE GOD, where everyone in the whole world has to abide by their ONE ARAB GOD AND RULE, so everyone has to adopt an arab name, culture, roots, history, selling expansion and conversion as an act of god, when its nothing more than expansion.

    So christ and allah do not accept ANYONE else UNLESS they convert to a european or arab framework, ie abrahamnic caucasion. Abrahamic faiths are CAUCASIAN faiths, Mohamed was a white guy as described many times over.

    So christ does not accept a hindu, buddhist, sikh, jain, athiest, good people who have no belief, again nor does allah accetp any of those people, in fact they state they will suffer, go to hell, be tortured, punished, their children tortured, for all times, not for one life or two lives, but one life forever in misery……..

    Christianity and Islam are CAUCASION EXPANSION, in which people are made to follow a european or arab ideology SOLD AS GOD.

    The christian slave trade the islamic slave trade was carried out by the abrahamic ideology that NOAHS first two sons, europeans and arabs had RULE OVER all other non caucsaion people. hence the slave trade and invasion of 90% of the world within 600years, the genocide and destruction of african people and culture, north and south american, australian, and damaged Indian culture to the roots.

  16. one dharma says

    Chritians when praying have to ”eat” the flesh of christ and drink his blood, this act ties those ”convert followers or slaves” to the murder and sacrifice of a white man called christ, if he existed at all, as their is not ONE authentic version of such a man, NOT ONE.

    The roman empire at the time of collapse needed a new adminsitration to tie the people to ONE ideology, today that is called ONE GOD.

    TWO concepts of ONE GOD.

    FIRST> Their is ONE GOD in all, people, races, places, animals, species, atoms, everything CONTAINS god,

    the SECOND version, the corrupted VERSION. Their is ONE GOD, and everyone in the world HAS TO BOW TO THAT ONE GOD, one rule, one version, one culture, one origins….that is Romes christianity and ARABS islam. Where god is not seen in all, but YOU MUST adopt a certain way of life, culture, name, ideology, identity of others and ASSUME that is god. Where people in africa, south america, australia, are all converted to ONE EUROPEAN CULTURE, HISTORY, IDEOLOGY, FAITH, LANG, ….this ENSLAVEMENT of duplication is called FAITH in the middle east.

    Remeber their concept of ONE GOD. In islam as a muslim to define one god and they will struggle. They will say god is one, ask them what it means they will NOT BE ABLE TO .

    Ask a hindu or a sikh why god is one, and they will say the element of the devine one truth is within all, thats why god is one and we are one. THATS WHY WE DONT CONVERT, because god is within already……..

    Ask a muslim or a christian why god is one, they will say because they are TOLD THAT. They are told that their god is NUMBER ONE, and everyone else will suffer, torture, forever…they are told that god is ONE, without understanding the concept of ONENESS……….

    the oneness in islam and christianity is a WHITE CAUCASION enslavement with ONE RULE via ONE GOD.

    ONENESS in islam and christianity is the ONENESS of power, ONENESS of control, ONENESS of wealth, the ONE control over everyone else.

    DHARMIC one, means everything has the same god within one selve. One god many forms, the one devine in everything.

    Now one version is the truth ONE GOD, and the other is the FAKE MIDDLE EASTERN SLAVE OWNING GOD…..where the world has to bow to their ONE GOD.

    dont get the two mixed up, ONE can have TWO meanings.

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