By Ranbir Singh
On the death of Sathya Sai Baba, Hindu holy man and spiritual guide for millions for worldwide, the coverage was almost wholly negative. Little was mentioned of his philanthropic activities such as providing fresh clean drinking water for thousands of poverty stricken villages in India , nor the state of the art modern hi-tech hospitals where patients are treated for free. The latter is by nomeans an insignificant fact in a country like India where millions suffer from adequate health care. It would be a significant fact in America where millions of decent, ordinary hard working people lack any health cover and where the doctors are more interested in your wallet than your well-being. News media such as the BBC muckraked as much defamatory abuse that yellow journalism could muster in their coverage of Sathya Sai Baba’s death focusing on whether his miracles were real and resurrecting allegations of sexual misconduct which have not only failed to be proven but in fact been withdrawn in the star witness case.
Now contrast this with the death of Sister Agnes, the Albanian nun who for years paraded around the world under the regal title of Mother Teresa. Since the BBC’s Malcolm Muggeridge turned the spotlight on this Catholic nun she was held to be sacrosanct, a living embodiment of Jesus and god on earth. The very Church she is a part of has sanctified her as a saint because she could perform miracles none of which have been widely scrutinised. Perhaps there is sometruth in this. Agnes performed a major miracle by hoodwinking the world into believing that she was a simple old lady who cared for the poor.
“What if Sathya Sai Baba was white and born in Albania?”
In this way inconvenient questions were swept under her the carpet. In fact, if you will excuse the pun, she had a quite a few dirty habits in her closet. The myth of Mother Teresa was born when Malcolm Muggeridge filmed her work in the Kolkotta slums in 1969 for the BBC documentary, later made into a book, Something Beautiful for God. She has never claimed that her work is for conversion and the poor are merely tools to be used in the war to effect this aim for the Catholic Church, and eschewed altruism and humanism as dangers to be avoided.
Sathya Sai Baba was Treated with Negative Anti-Hindu Bias while Mother Teresa Enjoyed Pro-Western and Christian Backing in World Media
In 1994,editor of the medical journal Lancet, Dr. Robin Fox, found that even themost basic medication and medical screening processes were missing, when theywould have helped the patients of her home. In fact the conditions were incredibly primitive when one considers the amount of money that has been lavished on the Albanian born missionary. Volunteer worker Mary Loudon accurately compared Teresa’s Home for the Dying to concentration camps like Belsen. Patients were not given pain killers, antibiotics, have enough drips, and the needles were being washed in cold water rather than being sterilised in the relatively simple process of using boiling water. Not only did Teresa receive lavish contributions, but she herself regularly checked into the most expensive hospitals in the West. This was the same hypocrite who told terminally ill patients that they should be grateful for their suffering, for it was Christ’sway of kissing them.
Even in western countries her other worldly approach with its contempt for society’s most vulnerable was in evidence. In the San Francisco branch, homeless inmates were again denied proper medication and instead offered prayer and sacrifice. TB is not uncommon in such places due to the unhygienic conditions. Mother Teresa encouraged the poor to bare their suffering as it was Christ’s way of kissing them. Her hospitals and clinics consisted of penalstyle unhygienic holding pens which made battery farming of hens look like the Ritz. Meanwhile Mother Teresa was treated in a private hospital owned by the very people whose religion she spent her entire life denigrating and setting out to annihilate using the old usual tactic of social service in order to ensnare the desperate and needy into her bony fingered vice trap. For Agnes abortion andeven contraception was a crime worse than that of poverty. For this she condemned millions into poverty as well as a lifetime of unwanted pregnancies with advice on matters which being a nun she would probably not have experience of.
Her concern for human suffering was a well known yet little publicised sham for siphoning millions into private bank accounts of the Sisters of Charity then sent to the Vatican. If she was so concerned for the poor why would this vile specimen of humanity speedily hasten to Bhopal in 1984 after the poisoning ofthousands by gas from the Union Carbide plant and encourage them to “forgive”.What about the western company which caused the poisoning? Why the silence? But then this disgusting loathsome evil putrid mass of walking flesh always did prefer the company of the rich and powerful. There seemed to be nothing in the conscience of this ugly Behemoth which would deter her from making a complete joke of her sheep like adoring millions. With the Union Carbide industrial calamity in Bhopal in1984, Mother Teresa arrived at the airport with the words of counsel “Forgive,forgive”. But what was there to forgive? And why should only the poor be askedto do this? For too long has Mother Teresa been immune from rational critique.
The Missionaries of Charity have never been accountable to anyone for the vast donations they have received. Robert Maxwell allowed Teresa to use his newspaper group to raise money. In the early 1980s, Charles Keating, a conservative and fundamentalist American Catholic, fleeced investors in this Savings and Loan scandal. In 1992 he was eventually brought to trial. Before this he has made generous donations of investors money toMother Teresa and given her the use of his private jet. For this reason the Catholic fundamentalist nun pleased with Judge Lance Ito to show clemency tothe Catholic fraudster. A reply sent by Paul Turley, Deputy District Attorneyfor Los Angeles , that she shouldinstead follow Jesus’ teachings and return the money, elicited no response formthe pompous missionary leader. The Teresa operation in Kolkotta is the remnant of what was once a vast empire of conquest and crusading, directly linked to European imperialism. In his 1995 book The Missionary Position, author Christopher Hitchens exposed the sham:
“As ever, the true address of the missionary is to the self-satisfaction of the sponsor and the donor, and not to the needs of the down trodden. Helpless infants, abandoned derelicts, lepers and the terminally ill are the raw material for demonstrations of compassion. They are in no position to complain,and their passivity and abjection is considered a sterling trait. It is time to recognize that the world’s leading exponent of this false consolation is herself a demagogue, and obscuranist and a servant of earthly powers.”
While claiming to be above politics, Mother Teresa backed the pro-Franco Catholic and fascist forces in Spain in their opposition to divorce, abortion and birth control legislation by the democratic government.
Teresa visited London in 1988. Ignoring the plight of the homeless, she had a private meeting with Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to discuss legislation to limit the availability of abortion. Mother Teresa praised Mengistu in order to allow her missionaries to work in Ethiopia. Mother Teresa visited Nicaraguato admonish the Sandanista regime. But she said nothing against Miguel Obando Bravo, the Cardinal Archbishop of Managuaas well as being official patron and confessor to the Contra rebels, who madeit deliberate policy to attack clinics, schools, and farms. Not a word against Guatamala’s regime for its paramilitary death squads and extirpation of the indigenous people, bust instead praise for how peaceful the country was. Agnes/Teresa praised Jean-Claude ‘Baby-Doc’ Duvalier as a president loved by his people.
In January 1981, Mother Teresa visited Haiti where she praised the Duvalier dictatorship for being so close and familiar with their impoverished and oppressed subjects. Teresa was awarded the national Légion d’honneur and appeared in the regime mouthpiece L’Assautwith the dictator’s wife Michèle Duvalier. It seemed nothing could sink any lower than a public figure projecting one of the worst dictatorships known to humanity than the Duvalier dynasty of Haiti . She did not even mind their useof Voudon ‘bogeymen’ to instil fear in the minds of millions of Haitians even if this did go against the Catholic Church in that country. Money of course was more holy than even a belief in Jesus, which to paraphrase Pope Leo X, has been a myth which has served the Papacy very well indeed. Yet she did go lower,laying a wreath at the shrine of communist despot Enver Hoxha of Albania , under whose rule she would not have even been allowed to pray to the god (and myth) which served her so well let alone don her dirty habit and become a swindler in ecclesiastical garb.
In 1990, Teresa was allowed to visit Tirana and place a wreath at the monument for Mother Albania and a bouquet of flowers on the grave of Enver Hoxha , Albania’s brutal communist leader who had suppressed all religion. The Mother Albania monument was a symbol of Greater Albania, encompassing not just Albania, but also Kosovo, and parts of Serbia, Montenegro ,and Greece . Indeed in Macedonia and Kosovo, Albanian secessionists brandish pictures of Mother Teresa.
Hitchens:
“The picture, and its context, announce Mother Teresa as what she is: a religious fundamentalist, a political operative, a primitive sermonizer and an accomplice of worldly secular powers. Her mission has always been of this kind. The irony isthat she has never been able to induce anybody to believe her.”
On balance then who is the saint and who is the sinner? The man who dedicated his life to helping the poor, deprived and under privileged despite lack of acknowledgement? Or the creepy and pathetic figure of one of humanity’s most successful swindlers? Criminals, cheats and scoundrels do not come as standard plastic models. They can be anyone. It is about time that Sathya Sai Baba’s charitable services to humanity were recognised just as it is up to that same media to disseminate the truth about the criminal apologist and dishonest human defence shield for the most vile figures in modern history, Mother Teresa.
What modern hospital did Teresa ever open? How many villages benefited from her efforts to give them running water? How many development projects did she inaugurate? How many free schools and universities did she start ? Why was this Mother Teresa creature so keen to point out povertyin India when her own Albanian homeland remains perhaps the poorest nation inEurope , joining other countries in the region in having people trafficking forthe sex trade as its main export commodity?
If she loved the poor so much why were they kept at bay during her regal funeral procession? If she thought poverty and misery were a gift from Christ why was she constantly jet-setting around the world, often by private aircraft, in a manner more be fitting a villain from James Bond? If her clinics were so good why was she treated in a India’s most prestigious and expensive hospitals? Did Teresa ever teach respect for all religions? Rhetorical question since she even supported the Church’s persecution of Galileo.
On the flip side how many lavish foreign trips did Sathya Sai Baba make? In fact he only ever went abroad once. Did he ever publicly defend criminals who thought themselves above the law? Did he pay homage and deliberately keep the company of fascist despots who crushed the aspirations of their own people, tortured them, incarcerated them, let them starve while they enjoyed a lifestyle that would be the envy of French aristocrats before the revolution of 1789? Did Sathya Sai Baba ever keep company of the Duvalier clan or Enver Hoxha? Did he interfere in people’spersonal lives to the extent of demanding loyalty when it flew in the race of all reason and rationality, as Teresa demanded abortion and contraception be stopped in countries where the demographic time bomb is ticking.
She even proudly announced he opposition to scientific achievements when they went against the teachings of her beloved imperialist dogmatic intolerant Church. Bycontrast Sathya Sai Baba embraced the modern world as evidenced by practical attempts to help India’s most poverty stricken villages or towns and the modern hi-tech hospital where he himself was treated. How many complaints of HIV infection,. TB and other nasty diseases came from this a forementioned medical centre? When did itever lack basic facilities? Sathya Sai Baba spoke of the truth in all religions, in contrast to the dogmatic, inflexible and intolerant message of Mother Teresa who hated the very culture and beliefs in the nation which had played host to her.
Teresa represented the hardcore fundamentalist inflexible wing of the Catholic Church, especially against any form of population control.
In 1979 Teresa was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize despite not actually earning it. On acceptance she inveighed against abortion and family planning. In an open air mass in Knock in Ireland , she again spoke on the same theme, hoping Ireland would outlaw both abortion and even contraception. This at a time when hundreds of innocent children were being raped and physically abused and mentally traumatised by priests and nuns in the powerful Catholic Church, which the Vatican took many pains to suppress.Teresa gave no thought to the demographic implications of her advice let alone recognise the sexual depravity being carried on right under her very nose by her very own Catholic Church.
When did Sathya Sai Baba ever compromise for fame and glory. By contrast this despicable women Teresa even threw her own anti-abortionism in the dustbin when it suited her, accepting friendship and honours from Indira Gandhi, even though the latter brutally enforced family planning through enforced sterilisation. When did Sathya Sai Baba ever seek such honours? Did Sathya Sai Baba demand respect of heads of state, especially those who specialised in slaughtering and massacring their own people? Did he siphon of billions which remain unaccounted for as Teresa did? Yet the media does not pick up on this, especially the media in India which suffers from a racial inferiority complex to the west.
There is no doubt that had Sathya Sai Baba been born in a western country such as Albania, been white, been part of some huge hatecore Christian missionary apparatus as the Catholic Church remains in India since the days of the marauding psychopath `Saint’ Francis Xavier, that the Indian media would have fallen over themselves to eulogise him. It is perhaps the best sign that although India gained independence in 1947,the colour at the apex merely changed. Attitudes did not. Hence Mother Teresa,born Agnes Bojaxhiu in 1910 Skopje, was sent forth as yet another example of the unwanted garbage of Europe and a Church which constantly stood against democracy, liberalism and progress culminating in its collaboration with the Third Reich.
Teresa’s cosy friendship with Third World despots is part of a well trodden path. It is this which she should be remembered for, as well as being the angel of death to millions of poor who were incarcerated and infected within her centers of death, misnomered clinics.
Just as Dr. Joseph Mengele found human guinea pigs for his nauseating experiments among what the Nazis deemed as the sub-human strata of Europe , so Teresa too found her victims among the poor and helpless of Kolkotta to be the human mice which would propel her to fame and glory. One can only imagine inretrospect how she must have smiled sardonically as she saw her own miracle toturning so many normally rational and sensible human beings into gullible sheep.
The truth about this sinner, this blot on India’s landscape, this fake, this hypocrite, this abuser of humanity, manipulator of the poor, is long overdue. Nowhere is this more so than in India . While Sathya Sai Baba achieved his universal respect from the common man to the head of states through his own efforts despite the media blackout of his philanthropy but a full merciless attack on him from that same media wherever there was even a whiff of a scandal, again the aforementioned media which has been so keen to hide Sathya Sai Baba’s tremendous development projects and charity work helping millions built up the myth of Mother Teresa as a saintly meek woman, all the while ignoring her craving for very worldly power and celebrity status. It is about time both myths were demolished: that of Sathya Sai Baba asmerely yet another miracle working holy man, and that of Mother Teresa as the saviour of India. She was not and it is a scandal just how low people such as this Agnes cansink.
If someone browns her face, puts a tilak on her forehead and has an Aum hanging from her rosary in her pictures i bet most slave mentality macaulite indians and the max muller syndrome suffering westerners would start saying she is a total fraud
Being a Sai devotee i feel an article like this will do more disservice to the name of Sai and His work than helping its cause. Must Sri Sathya Sai’s work be highlighted by bringing down another famous name. I do not say whether the above details regarding Mother Teresa are true or false, but i dont think Sri Sathya Sai’s work needs publicity by making it stand on someone’s shoulder. If the purpose of this article is to expose Mother Teresa, let it be done in isolation; on the other hand if the purpose is to highlight the good work done by Sri Sathya Sai through His Trust, let it be done by wihtout injuring anyone else. Love and Light
Haven’t we learnt nothing from sathya Sai babas teachings? Did he not emphasise all religions are one? Critising and Condeming others or religious icons is not part of swamis teachings. Sathya Sai does not require us to defend or fight on his behalf! Everything is his will and his life long work is an example of proof alone for us to follow and continue
Sai ram.
Naresh and Sai teachings, if people like you had defended Sai baba from the abuse and insults that the media has continued to do up to this day in the first place then today he wouldn’t be portrayed as a fraudster and sex molester around the world..So dont come here and start to preach your own weaknesses and misunderstandings of Sai Baba teachings because none of you even understand one percent of it.Flimsy excuses like ‘Sathya Sai does not require us to defend or fight on his behalf!’ is your own pathetic excuse not stand up for him but i bet if your own parents were being abused and insulted day and night then you would be the first to stand up to defend them ..
Sai Teachings , did Sai baba give you the official endorsement to call yourself Sai teachings so you can portray yourself as an expert on on Sai Baba teachings ?
I would say that Sai Baba was god, he did millions of miracles, millions of times in millions of places and even today he is seen felt and known in countries and towns which people have not heard of too…faith travels faster then media coverage and lingers on…news dies but faith grows. He will be worshipped in years to come as hhatevere is GOD, simple!. Mother Teresa on the other hand is a pure missionary who did what she felt right. The Catholic church was her boundary so she shall always be a restricted nun or whatever. God has Glory, men have limitations. Lets live with them…
You said it right Arjun! If you cannot defend your parents, your birth is just a shame to them. Lord Sri Krishna himself took action against his own uncle Kansa, and Lord Rama had to kill well-learned scholar and Brahmin Ravana. It is our duty now to defend our divine mother father Sathya Sai. If necessary, not words but warriors of Sai are ready to fight for truth! Jai Sai Ram!!
Urgent appeal to all Sathya Sai keyboard warriors: Please make haste to Puttaparthi and Whitefield Ashram, and/or Hyderabad and Bangalore to take issue with the Andhra Pradesh government which is finalizing its endgame in taking over the badly cash-starved Sathya Sai movement. Money or physical/moral support will be deeply appreciated!
Without money and service support from right minded people like you the movement will collapse! Please help – the seva dal volunteers are now down to a trickle and several Sathya Sai University and School students have transferred to other schools at the insistence of their parents! Doctors and nurses are also quitting the hospitals en masse – every rupee/dollar/pound from you will help!
Jai Sai Ram!
Mr Arjun, there is a proverb. If you through a stone on shit then will get dirty. So I don’t want to through stone on you. But wanna say one thing is people like you are still in India makes India worse and media is happy to enter-tine people like you.
the point is clear. If a non-indian does something like billgates donated 1lact to india AIDS people (I hope you haven’t received part of it) media put hype and respect like anything.
This shows how great India is. Such a crap india. Better learn from small countries like bangladesh or so.
Where is greatness of india now ? educated people also talks rubbish and do rubbish for money earning.
Daily junk from news might have filled your mind, stomach and your body. Thats why you are using fraud and sex words.
all the best to your family and your children having such person in your family album.
Actually, let me step up and defend Arjun here, even though I am NOT a Sathya Sai devotee (was one before), since after prolonged reflection and investigation in the matter, I decided to break away from the movement due to the persistent and credible allegations of wrongdoing. I am very much a Hindu still, and a proud one, and do not feel obligated to equate every attack on Sathya Sai Baba as an attack on Hinduism and on India. I truly believe that there was much that was questionable about the person and his behavior.
Having said all that, I applaud Arjun for his guts and balls to stand up and defend something he believes in. I believe his faith in Sathya Sai Baba to be misguided (as was my own till some time back, until I fell out with the whole movement), yet his defense of his guru is commendable. Even though Karna was mistaken in defending Duryodhana (and the other way around), such loyalty nevertheless reflected well on both. It shows spine. If only more Indians and Hindus had it, we would be better off.
sri , there is a english dictionary online so maybe you need to use that before attempting to write something which has nothing to do with the article and also i dont live in india so maybe you are writing about yourself who lives there and is useless for society.
You can’t compare Mother Teresa with shameless creature called Sathya Sai.
Arjun is right…
The posts 4,5,7 obviously are still stuck in the past where events from the Gita where purposeful for that era.
Times have moved on we are in the 21century..not the stone ages.. And if u understood swami fully
then u would appreciate him being an universal master and emphasises ahimsa. This is comment box on the article above not a personnal vendetta to any individuals who take the time to voice their perspective on the above article.
Ever heard the phrase ” sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?” thats
an english phrase and used commonly in western countries…u should be aware as u proclaim u are
not a resident of India, but possess an Indian name and preach Indian ideology!
Good view must think on it seriously.
Arjun, thanks for English dictionary. But for me knowledge of English quite enough to shut mouths of barking dog who talks rubbish against somebody beyond humanity and who taught to being a human.
Now a days it is become fashion of acquire foreign knowledge and show in English words.
I am in India and I know well what is about India and have sense about of understanding what is good and what is bad.
You think of yourself when answering whether you are in deep shit or not.
Bay areas or downtown might be providing giga bit internet service but here its still costly for me. So I cant write more.
It would be better if you go through some write ups or books or websites and read about sri sathya sai before commenting.
This is not a Gandhi yug to show other chin for lap if somebody making false statements on a person whom millions of devotees including me treat him as divine and parent.
Ignore language the flavor that I added might have reached to you and my anger appeared in front of your screen.
Thant is enough to convey a message.
Well if your knowledge of English was so good then how comes you haven’t understood what i wrote above ? Where am i saying Sathya Sai baba is bad ? You are just jumping to your own foolish conclusions and then making false judgements because you bark before your even try to speak and then try to lecture others without any knowledge what the I said or what even the article itself is saying.Its people like you cant defend who you claim to be divine and your parent when they are abused so dont lecture me and instead go and lecture NDTV or IBN or the many other indian media outlets who have been abusing Sai Baba for the last 4 months
Thats what I am trying to do. Posting comments to every media. I don’t care about whether somebody sits in India or in abroad. Whether it is ABC or XYZ news channel.
All are useless and idiots. If at all some thing good is getting done in India it is only because of little bit of spirituality left in very few people in india. And they are following swamy.
A regular media job is to treat any news as enshrinement and abuse to get TRPs. And people follow it blindly.
This is not about discussing a celebrity who show his / her body and have sex every day with un knows.
It is all abut some body who is incomparable with a human being. It is illiterate to use words like fraud or abuse against them.
People get this kind of ideas only when they fell down so badly and have no sense of humanity in their blood and flush.
I wonder why Tsunami is effected India.
23 November 1926 – 24 April 2011. During this tenure no dick and harry dared to prove a single false allegation made against swamy. This itself shows the purity and also proofs those are false.
Now people are talking like anything.
I don’t have habit of giving lectures to stones but yes surely i will do my contribution against abuses.
Good bye.
** I wonder why Tsunami didn’t effected India
Whether one lives in India or not is it necessary to begrudge each other with words? The media to
which you subscribe has given rise to your anger direct it elsewhere perhaps in anger management
courses rather than on a mechanical instrument used as a weapon to rage a war of
words.obviously too much time on your hands .Arjun shows a lack of respect to other comments and believes the words of the sensationalised media covers,including using the same words to for his own clarity and description, living out of India has certainly not done you any favours.Read learn and most of all absorb swamis teachings then you will understand.By the way it is better to be understood and tolerant than to throw loose words around to impress upon others your views.
I guess your families are in India and if they are, a pity you are not there to defend them.Show respect to your fellow beings and live in peace in harmony.
Jai Sai ram,
Stay safe.
even i feel… sai baba does not need any publicity… definitely his work should be highlighted but the purpose is not to defend sai baba.. the only purpose is the INSPIRATION for today’s world.. we are no oneto defend him… and we should not forget dat even if entire world is against him.. its nothing for him..because he is the creater… remember only one thing…SATHYA SAI BABA IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subbulutchmi , Are you another dumbo ? Where have i said i believe ‘ the words of the sensationalised media covers’ Dont you even undestand the article above and my comments ? If you dont then go and bark somewhere else..
Neer , read the article or is it the same person using many IDs are expressing them same thickness
In response to the iyer, my ongoing learnings of Sri sathya Sai gives me the benefit and platform to voice an opinion on the basis of the article unlike yourself who feels it necessary to criticise and off
load ur life stories online to strangers instead of bettering yourself as a Hindu! Read the article instead of worrying menial things such as users names used on a comment list. Obviously you were not happy with your spiritual path….but millions have enjoyed and still enjoy swamis bliss! And yes iyer I can afford to call myself Sai teachings….but that’s for me to know and for people like you to not worry about!!!! Sai ram and prayers to those who have lost their way..
You heathen Hindoos were lucky that Mother Tersea even walked on land of filth and sodomy where you all worship the idols of demons indulging in all acts of sexual depravity.Your sai baba is the follower of Satan and is with him in hell .You still have a chance to save your souls and follow the path of the one and only true god Jesus christ or face the wrath of Jehovah before you all end up rotting in hell !
What on Earth are most of these self-proclaimed Baba follower been smoking??? The media are going to take the advantage when handed people who are not willing to do anything…most of you have not bothered to read the article, shame on you….the others are so embarrassed that a white person may get upset you better come and defend church with is looked down upon by most of them….non of us can become Sathya Sai Baba…no matter how much of the moral high-ground you take…there are some people trying to live his message and other just getting even more confused…
JAI SAI RAM
I’m not sure Hitchens is the most credible source to quote from. Many years ago I connected him to a woman author named Acharya S who was listed on a white supremacist website as a female white supremacist. This material is documented in my research. Acharya S wrote a book claiming Jesus was a mythological character and runs her own website promoting herself. She had also written an article smearing Sai Baba that was posted on the anti-Sai website. I was appalled to discover that a “white person” was hiding behind the name Acharya in what seemed to be an attempt to appear to be a Hindu in order to smear Sai Baba and look “credible”. In other words, anything Hitchens writes should be read with skepticism.
@Shankar, @Sri
Your mother may have taught you benevolence and forgiveness. But what do you do when other people call her a whore right in front of your face? What do you do if they try to rape her? Do you chant peace and ignore it, thinking “benevolence and forgiveness” where the teachings of your mother? You need to understand the idealism and reality. Hinduism presents four varnas. First two are brahmins and kshatriya. Without bhrahmins, khatriya are directionless and without kshatriya bhrahmins are prone to extinction.
Your words resemble that of a eunuch who does nothing but clap. Many civilizations have been destroyed by the abrahamic invaders in the past. But the world’s oldest one still remains. It is not because of of its unchallenged idealisms, but a tendency to protect itself whenever it is endangered. And hence, Hinduism, which is based on Vedas and Upanishads still lives because the “kshatriya” character is very much integeral to it. Hinduism is alive only because of Hindus who clear the distortions created by the anti-hindus and kshatriyas who thwarted the mughals.
If people like you infest Hinduism and the world, then distortions like cast system, dowry, sati pratha etc would become synonymous with Hinduism as no one would be there to protect the actual teachings and science of Hinduism. The true science would eventually die and the distortions done by christian creeps like max muller, bloomsfield, macaulay, wendy doniger, robert wilkinson, patrizia norelli, mother teresa etc would surround the world like a smoke cover hiding the light of the sun.
Such spineless cowards who defame Hindu gurus, don’t have the balls to do so on the face of a person. But like drunken nymphomaniac start “bitching” behind them or when they die. Hence such distortions about Hindu gurus like Satya Sai after their death.
If you spineless amoebas cannot stand for anything related to Hinduism, then why such infantile cries when the same is happening for Teresa? Perhaps you should go back to your dirty caves and only sing idealism when your family is being harrassed. You guys act like drunken dogs when the thieves steals and bark when the master enters.
@Lutchmi : You act like the uneducated leftists who swear by the western researches based on the west and ignore India. The theory of “stone age” actually fails in context of India as the age of Rigveda alone is yet undetermined. If a language as advanced as vedic sanskrit was present in the “theoretical time of stone age”, then one can only wonder about the advancement of that civilization.
Kaliyuag : 432000 years
Dvapuryuga : 864000 years
Tretayuga : 1296000 years
Satyga : 1728000 years
We are 5000 years into the kaliyuga as per the astronomical configurations as presented by the vedic timeline as confirmed by the modern science. Do your maths and see the age of stone age and compare it with the start of satyuga which is characterised by “perfect memory, intelligence, intuitive knowledge, physical strength etc”. If you understand science, then you’d understand how modern material science has ignored many of the Indian teachings because of which many theories in modern material science stand in conflict with each other and limited in their usage. (Read tao of Physics for basics). The quantum theory itself is shaking the whole foundation of the modern material science. On the contrary, there hasn’t been much conflict between Indian science and modern science and to be more precise, many of the western scientists and philosophers like Tesla, Heisnberg, shroedinger etc have been influenced or motivated by the Vedic science. In case of history, west has always ignored the Indian history and now they theorise that India was the starting civilization of the world which again shakes the entire historical records. Even thje puranas state the same. How can one ignore the oldest civilization of the world either in the case of science or history?
Thus your argument of 21st century and stone is only laughable and childish and exposes your blind belief in flawed western researches. This age is characterised by inability of the people to read the complete texts, indulge in material desires, low intellect, high diseases, low fertility, less physical immunity etc. Thus 21st century is only contrary to “evolution” and presents mental as well as physical regression. India was marked as a golden bird, rich in arts, culture, money, science and spirituality. Perhaps you’d like to read the works of travellers like Hueng-Tsang, scientists and philosphers on India and Hinduism.
Ahimsa doesn’t mean to act like a eununch, close your eyes and see adharma sprouting and spreading all over the earth. It is a concept based on dharma which is the first step towards a peaceful society. It is a concept marking the idealism in the society. But if the dharma is endangered, then the second step comes into the picture i.e protection of the dharma. Thus we see, Krishna playng the card ahimsa for Shishupal for his first 100 sins. But when he crossed the line, Krishna did what was necessary and “acted”. Pandavas forgave Duryodhana since his childhood (i.e ahimsa), but when the dharma itself was endangered, women were not respected and a basic necessaity to live peacefully was not met, then the fight was inevitable.
Do you play ahmisa with mosquitoes that bite you? You seem to be pretty familiar with the proverbs. Here’s one for you : “Dhobbi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka”. Understand what it means.
Teaching ahmisa is good, but preaching ahimsa “all the time” is foolishness! Even your immunity system is fighting to protect you from worldy “diseases” all the time and keep the body in a “natural state”. Ahimsa is a teaching of Gita, but it also says
yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbahavtibharata
abhutyanamadharmasya tadatmanamsrijamya ham
paritranayan sadhunama vinashaya dishkritam
dharmasanstharpanathaya sambhavani yuge yuge||
Christianity presents stupidies like flat earth theory and conversion by hook or crook. It is what missionaries waste their life for so that other can become superstitous like them. Many Hindu gurus present spirituality and ability to question, look inside and prosperous.
People like you stay mute when superstitions and distortions are spread, see the show like a coward unable to stop that adharma and suddenly become active and oppose those who actually fight for dharma. People like you preaching the words of ahmisa where action is necessary. That is not Hindu at all, but an act of a spineless coward.
I wonder if you are christian missionaries with hindu names suffering from max-muller syndrome.
Brilliantly said, Girdhar! There are too many people who have hindu names but do not know what ones dharmic duty or protection of dharma means in the first place that includes protecting the fair name of saints and sages.
I find this article very well written and very objective comparing Satya Sai Baba and Mother Theresa .Being from kolkata I’ve see the activities of Mother teresa and her nuns and I wasn’t at all impressed. Shes more of a media creation than anything real on the ground.Her orphanages which I have visited were worse than a rubbish dump with no proper facilities .Like the article exposes it was just a front to convert Hindus to Christianity.Mother teresa herself had treatment at the best hospitals in India and abroad while her orphans and sick people of the streets of kolkata kept in her buildings were only used for publicity and nothing else.Does anyone ever hear of the patients and orphans brought up in orphanages or hospitals years later ? None far as i know
I’ve been a Sathya Sai Baba devotee for nearly 40 years so I can see the comparisons clearly where anyone can hopefully see how many millions of people have been helped by his social work over the years and done well in their lives later on but I am also sickened and agree with Arjun with the behaviour of many Sathya Sai Baba devotees who have been using his sayings and quotes out of context to not defend his name when it has been blackened. Just because he says love all serve all doesn’t mean you just keep on loving the person who in front of your own eyes is raping your mother without even trying to defend her.Its for this very reason the negative publicity from third rate reporters continues..But when these same devotees are in trouble with either some illness or they want to find a marriage partner for their son or daughter or they are facing a financial crisis then they will be praying day and night for his help .Why don’t they just ignore it then and just say love all serve all and forget about it.The excuses they make to not defend Swami are ridiculous.One devotee was telling me that Swami had said a few times don’t worry what the media says about me and I replied to him of course a mother or father would say that to their son to just ignore what is said but will a true son ever ignore what’s said about his or her parents ? Most will not.
Ghirdar has nicely put the truth across which is something that most devotees who regard themselves as devotees should really start thinking about and stop being hypocrites.
I am really surprised that Sathya Sai Trust is cash starved as documented by another person above. If thats the case, I being an exstudent at Puttaparthi cannot belive this and want to do something!!
wats dat arjun?
@Girdhar,
I am not sure which post made you write a big comments with all Gita.
But I am not here as a Hinudu though I am pure Hindu and a Bramin. I am not here to discuss about hinduism or any other religion. In short I am not fan of “Religion” but I respect God,
have faith in God and have fear in God. This attracted me towards Sathya sai. Sathya sai is beyond a religion. He is not a awatar for Hindus or Christian.
I feel somebody is who speaks about a religion is a DOG. Nothing left in a religion rather fight for it which is causing damage to human. There is no humanity in Religion. But something better in believe in god and believe in Swamy.
I don’t care if somebody says I am not respecting my won religion. Because I am not seeing any thing good happening being part of a hindu or muslim or christian. But I find happy and finding
meaning of being human and being Sri Sathy Sai devotee.
People say India, Hinduism. Do you know why we ring a bell 3 time when you enter a temple, do you know why you stand aside while taking darshan, do you know why to give coconut as pradad ? ,
do you know why harathi ? why Kunkum and haldi ? what is the meaning of Rudram, Namakham, chamakam and Mantra puspam ? do you know what is Kalasa and why should be used ? ,
why do you need to pray Gayitri before sitting for lunch or dinner ? do you know why to do sandhya vandanam ? do you know the meaning of
“OM BUHR, BHUVA, SWAHA OM TAT SAVITUR VARENYAM BHARGO DEVASYA DHEEMAHI DHIYO YONAHA PRACHODAYAT”
Do you know why we need to put right leg on left leg while doing shastanga pranam ?
Can anybody provide a clear cut answer to your son or a daughter about any of my questions??????
There are many things I can ask where many of people doesn’t have answers but they still say they are Hindus.
So being devotee of swamy I better not talk about a religion but follow the meaning and participate in the good work.
So my comments are all against the good work by swamy and not TO A single person or a religion.
Yatra naryanthi poojyanthe tatra vasanthi deevathan”
Where a woman gets respected, there you will find devotion and the sing of happiness.
India and religions are no more of keeping the good old stamp “Spritual Country”.
Follow a religion and be like APE or follow Sathya sai and become HUMAN.
**So my comments are all against people who criticizes good work swamy and trust and not TO A single person or a religion.
@ Sri im so sorry to say but you have understood nothing abt Sathya SAi Baba. His biggest mission on this planet has been to promote and spread Hinduism/Sanatan Dharma everywhere. And you know why? Becos its not a religion you fool! Just goes to show how much you have misunderstood Baba!! as well as hinduism!
Now this is in SAi Baba’s own words!! —
“I have come to reconstruct the ancient highway to God; to instruct all in the essence of Vedas, to shower on all this precious gift; to protect Sanathana Dharma, the Ancient Wisdom and to preserve it. My Mission is to serve happiness and so I am always happy to come among you, not once but twice, thrice as often as you want me. To set right those who have taken to the wrong path and to protect the good, I will be born again and again. I have come to light the lamp of Love in your hearts, to see that it shines day by day with added lustre.” ~Sathya Sai Baba
So what now? Was baba preaching religion here?!!!?! He is beyond religion yes. But get this thro your think skull- that hinduism is NOT a religion. It is a dharma-culture. And the most liberating and empowering force in the world! If you really love Baba then study hinduism!! becos that is what he wanted to spread everywhere!!
and here’s some more–
http://sailinks-sathyasaibaba.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-bhagwan-sri-sathya-saibaba-says.html
“Most of our troubles have arisen because we have forgotten the Vedas. Be fearless in propagating the Vedas among the people. When you are proclaiming the Truth, why have any fear? Only those who preach falsehood have to be afraid. Is your life in danger? What if life goes? There is nothing nobler than giving up one’s life in defense of the Vedas. It is in such a spirit of dauntless determination that you should undertake revival of Vedic knowledge.”
Sri has Sathya Sai Baba told you to become blind as well ? You still haven’t read this article and but you keep on going on about Baba being attacked and now your stupidity goes even further where you trying to make hinduism into a joke by trying to give the impression baba had nothing to do with it because he was beyond it..Sathya baba day and night promoted the Vedas and other hindu scriptures, lived a very strict hindu life and had a very hindu funeral where all the waters where from all the sacred hindu rivers and soil from all hindu religious places and you are trying to say he was beyond Hinduism or he was interested in it ? You think people are stupid and thick like yourself.Baba even said in 2008 that hinduism will be the only religion in the world because everyone will be attracted to it..He didn’t have to announce by loudspeaker every hour he was a Hindu or promoting it because his life was his message and the message was loud and clear what he thinks of Hinduism..So it not worth trying to be expert on why hindus use coconuts and call people who follow their religion which in this case being Hinduism as apes otherwise u will face the wrath of the rise of the planet of the apes lol
I don’t think so the words, love pease , sanathana dharma, are not a property of a religion. “Hindu” is a religion and it is as good as any other religion.
The actual meaning of swamy words is do what you understood from your own religion and you holy books like bible or gita or other. The essence of all these is “love all , serve all” , “service to human is service to god”.
For this I need not be a religious person to follow and implement. But I should implement in day to day life.
Here you have mentioned Vedas. But I am talking in general. Because other religion people might not be interested in vedas but they are actually good. People who takes the actual essence, whether it is from vedas or kuran or from bible, they end up doing what swamy is asked us to do.
I came from a small village. I saw people who are not educated have very nominal earnings. They are not highly educated to understand the meanings of vedas and all. But I have seen the dedication in serving poor. Contributing their small share in big seva events like feeding food to poor and providing cloths etc… I bet not even a single person including me does the kind of service they do every week.
They feel and follow swamy words and finding happiness being swamy devotees.
I dont know their cast, whether they are rich or poor. But I get inspiration such people from them and think myself what I can do better.
No vedas or Upanishad taught them doing so.. but swamy taught them in simple words. The underline teachings are combined from all religious things.
Swamy not belongs to a a single religion and he is not representative for a single religion. He is beyond all of them. His meaning of mentioning Vedas is actually the good stuff from all religious books.
But being a religious fans, we actually separate and think those are specific to vedas or puranas or from bible or from khuran.
End of the day, for me what I learned from swamy is “service to man is service to god”. Is there any different meaning can be extracted from other holy religious books?
No body has time to read vedas, upanishad or khuran or bible these days. So swamy came me with simple straight forward think is to help a needy. Do service. Be like human.
There is a proverb in telugu, “Poojinche chetula kanna help cheste chetulu minna”. A serving hand is better than worshiping hand.
People need help now. Spend some time in helping rather than spending more time in chanting.
If at all we get time spend time in reading and understand our own religion from vedas or upanisha or kuran or bible and improve our self.
@Sri :
People like you are the finest examples and personification of ignorance. You yelped about religion, whined in length and then equated it to Hinduism. Clear your basics first and understand the differentiation between “religion and dharma”.
http://micheldanino.voiceofdharma.com/kaliyuga.html
http://veda.wikidot.com/dharma-and-religion
The conceptualization and usage of religion and dharma are like North pole and South pole. You view Hinduism through the abrahamic prism and hence know zilch about the basic difference between shrutis and the smritis.
And here are your stupid questions
——-
People say India, Hinduism. Do you know why we ring a bell 3 time when you enter a temple, do you know why you stand aside while taking darshan, do you know why to give coconut as pradad ? ,
do you know why harathi ? why Kunkum and haldi ? what is the meaning of Rudram, Namakham, chamakam and Mantra puspam ? do you know what is Kalasa and why should be used ? ,
why do you need to pray Gayitri before sitting for lunch or dinner ? do you know why to do sandhya vandanam ?
Do you know why we need to put right leg on left leg while doing shastanga pranam ?
Can anybody provide a clear cut answer to your son or a daughter about any of my questions??????
There are many things I can ask where many of people doesn’t have answers but they still say they are Hindus.
——-
Now let me ask you some basic questions
1) Have you ever read Vedas?
2) Have you ever read Upanishads?
3) Have you ever read atleast the bhagvada-geeta?
When you’ll read about Hinduism without any judgmental bias, you’ll realize that most of the questions you asked dont even have their source in the Vedas, Upanishads and the Gita. Rather, they are the part of ancient India and ceremonial procedures that developed over time and vary from place to place. Every ancient Indian practice does not equate to Hinduism!
Well, when I goto temple I ring the bell one time. I can chose not to also. The definition of prasad depends from region to region. Somewhere it is sweets, somewhere the laddoos, somewhere it is the ‘boondi’ etc. Haldi is used because it has medicinal values. But again such procedures are not part of the shrutis. Aryasamaj, sanatanis and south Indians etc have different procedures for marriage. Nepalis (majority Hindu), Thais etc have something of their own.
Well, you stand totally exposed and unfit for any serious discussion. I don’t even udnerstand if I should laugh at your juvenile understanding of Hinduism or show some sympathy.
But here’s some friendly suggestions for you
1) Start reading Bhagvada Geeta
2) Start reading Sri Aurobindo’s compilation of the Upanishads and secret of the Veda
3) Read Tao of Physics by Fritjoph Capra
4) And understand the difference between Religion and dharma.
Abrahamic invaders termed the rich ancient Indian sciences and philosophies as religion and gullible Indians like you readily believed it. It goes down to the gutters when people like you even promote your ignorance and spread further distortions about Hinduism. You should understand that anything that promotes questioning of one’s own views and explorations of the nature can never be called a religion.
Hence, “neti neti” a basic aspect of questioning cannot be called as a religon.
It is declared the sense are superior but more than the senses the mind is superior but more than the mind the intelligence is superior and more than the intelligence that which is superior is the individual consciousness. (Gita 3.42)
The whole world is running after the science of consciousness which originated from the Vedas and you think Hinduism is a set of procedures? I guess you need to do your primary education which teaches to read the book and then judge, but Indians like you seem to ignore the basic aspect of education and judge the book by its cover.
When you say you are bhramin, you only mock yourself further as the varna system is a division based on profession and how one serves the society. You lack basic aspects of a bhramin nature characterized by ability to read the scriptures, knowledge, intellect and visualise intuitively too.
A shudra is one who lacks these qualities and is unskilled but still serves the society. It has nothing connected to “by birth”. A person born in a labourers family (shudra) can still become a scientist (bhrahmin) if he has the determination, intellect and wisdom.
You don’t even understand the basic definition of the class system or varna system. You atmost can be called as a shudra by your knowledge and the level of intellect. You may be born in a hindu family, but you are neither a bhrahmin ‘by nature’ nor a hindu by your character.
Such kind of behaviour is rather called a “mleccha”, a category defined by unwillingness to read anything intelligent, judging a book by its cover, disrespect to what the actual bhrahmins say and unwillingness to ponder wisely!
Can a doctor’s child be called a doctor by birth? Then how can a bhrahmin child be called a bhrahmin ‘by birth’? It is the same old gullible and idiotic argument used by ignorant hindus like you that “I’m a bhrahmin” where your knowledge and intellect are contrary to the “nature” of a bhrahmin. You need to do some reading and raise your consciousness so that people like you born in a hindu family do not mock Hinduism further and present a distorted version of Hinduism to those who really do not know anything about Hinduism but are curious to know.
You are disgrace not only to hinduism, but to intellect and wisdom itself!
—Sorry, repost because of typo—
@Sri :
People like you are the finest examples and personification of ignorance. You yelped about religion, whined in length and then equated it to Hinduism. Clear your basics first and understand the differentiation between “religion and dharma”.
micheldaninoDOTvoiceofdharmaDOTcom/kaliyuga.html
vedaDOTwikidotDOTcom/dharma-and-religion
(Replace DOT with .)
The conceptualization and usage of religion and dharma are like North pole and South pole. You view Hinduism through the abrahamic prism and hence know zilch about the basic difference between shrutis and the smritis.
And here are your stupid questions
——-
People say India, Hinduism. Do you know why we ring a bell 3 time when you enter a temple, do you know why you stand aside while taking darshan, do you know why to give coconut as pradad ? ,
do you know why harathi ? why Kunkum and haldi ? what is the meaning of Rudram, Namakham, chamakam and Mantra puspam ? do you know what is Kalasa and why should be used ? ,
why do you need to pray Gayitri before sitting for lunch or dinner ? do you know why to do sandhya vandanam ?
Do you know why we need to put right leg on left leg while doing shastanga pranam ?
Can anybody provide a clear cut answer to your son or a daughter about any of my questions??????
There are many things I can ask where many of people doesn’t have answers but they still say they are Hindus.
——-
Now let me ask you some basic questions
1) Have you ever read Vedas?
2) Have you ever read Upanishads?
3) Have you ever read atleast the bhagvada-geeta?
When you’ll read about Hinduism without any judgmental bias, you’ll realize that most of the questions you asked dont even have their source in the Vedas, Upanishads and the Gita. Rather, they are the part of ancient India and ceremonial procedures that developed over time and vary from place to place. Every ancient Indian practice does not equate to Hinduism!
Well, when I goto temple I ring the bell one time. I can chose not to also. The definition of prasad depends from region to region. Somewhere it is sweets, somewhere the laddoos, somewhere it is the ‘boondi’ etc. Haldi is used because it has medicinal values. But again such procedures are not part of the shrutis. Aryasamaj, sanatanis and south Indians etc have different procedures for marriage. Nepalis (majority Hindu), Thais etc have something of their own.
Well, you stand totally exposed and unfit for any serious discussion. I don’t even udnerstand if I should laugh at your juvenile understanding of Hinduism or show some sympathy.
But here’s some friendly suggestions for you
1) Start reading Bhagvada Geeta
2) Start reading Sri Aurobindo’s compilation of the Upanishads and secret of the Veda
3) Read Tao of Physics by Fritjoph Capra
4) And understand the difference between Religion and dharma.
Abrahamic invaders termed the rich ancient Indian sciences and philosophies as religion and gullible Indians like you readily believed it. It goes down to the gutters when people like you even promote your ignorance and spread further distortions about Hinduism. You should understand that anything that promotes questioning of one’s own views and explorations of the nature can never be called a religion.
Hence, “neti neti” a basic aspect of questioning cannot be called as a religon.
It is declared the sense are superior but more than the senses the mind is superior but more than the mind the intelligence is superior and more than the intelligence that which is superior is the individual consciousness. (Gita 3.42)
The whole world is running after the science of consciousness which originated from the Vedas and you think Hinduism is a set of procedures? I guess you need to do your primary education which teaches to read the book and then judge, but Indians like you seem to ignore the basic aspect of education and judge the book by its cover.
When you say you are bhramin, you only mock yourself further as the varna system is a division based on profession and how one serves the society. You lack basic aspects of a bhramin nature characterized by ability to read the scriptures, knowledge, intellect and visualise intuitively too.
A shudra is one who lacks these qualities and is unskilled but still serves the society. It has nothing connected to “by birth”. A person born in a labourers family (shudra) can still become a scientist (bhrahmin) if he has the determination, intellect and wisdom.
You don’t even understand the basic definition of the class system or varna system. You atmost can be called as a shudra by your knowledge and the level of intellect. You may be born in a hindu family, but you are neither a bhrahmin ‘by nature’ nor a hindu by your character.
Such kind of behaviour is rather called a “mleccha”, a category defined by unwillingness to read anything intelligent, judging a book by its cover, disrespect to what the actual bhrahmins say and unwillingness to ponder wisely!
Can a doctor’s child be called a doctor by birth? Then how can a bhrahmin child be called a bhrahmin ‘by birth’? It is the same old gullible and idiotic argument used by ignorant hindus like you that “I’m a bhrahmin” where your knowledge and intellect are contrary to the “nature” of a bhrahmin. You need to do some reading and raise your consciousness so that people like you born in a hindu family do not mock Hinduism further and present a distorted version of Hinduism to those who really do not know anything about Hinduism but are curious to know.
You stated : ““Hindu” is a religion and it is as good as any other religion. “. It means that you have read the scriptures of Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Buddism, SIkhism, Jainism, Confucianism, Taoism etc to conclude such a statement? You don’t even understand the basic difference between abrahamic religions and Vedic sciences and philosophies!
You must be really proud of your ignorance!
All the questions I have asked is for those who talk and follow but don’t know what mean.
I am talking about people who read something and do something else.
I said I am branhmin because I mean it. I wake up and do Gayitri mantra. My father is there to teach the meaning of what each mantra means. And he is true follower of swamy.
But every body cann’t find such people. If you are not Hindu, then whatever your writings and examples would have from other religion.
You might have read Vedas so you are giving examples from vedas. But just think what if you belongs to other religion. Rather giving examples from vedas would have ended up giving examples from a bible or kuhran or from a one out of long listing you have given.
What I have telling is same. Religious is not that important right now. There is a christian who is dying for food, there is a muslim and there is a hindu too.
Get our from religion and do good to all man kind. And what swamy did and asked us to do is the same.
The saarama ( underlined meaning of ) all teachings of swamy is not restricted to a single person but to all irrespective of which religion they belongs to.
@Sri :
How old are you? Even a criminal in Tihar Jail can chant gayatri Mantra. There are so many unintelligent people who can repeat what Sri Sri Ravishankar teaches them, just like your father taught you gayatri mantra. But what good is it, if you cannot grasp what science and philosophy of Hinduism is all about?
Islam teaches for Islamisation of the whole world with “one true God” allah and one true religion i.e Islam. Anyone who leaves Islam or questions Allah or Quran is liable to be killed. On the contrary, Hinduism teaches about “divine elements” of the nature which are called as “Brahma, Vishnu, agni, Indra etc”. Agni-dev is a personification of fire and Indra is a personification of intellect. Similarly, Brahma is the collective consciousness. Neither Buddha asked to start “buddhism” nor Veda teaches anything about the term “Hinduism”. These are a term to denote a set of teachings. Who constructed these terms? It was the abrahamic invaders!
So how can hinduism and buddhism be a religion? A religion is something that you blindly follow and questioning is forbidden. Whereas, many scientists like heisenberg, schroedinger, einstein etc were influenced, motivated by or testified on Vedic knowledge.
I understand your mindset as you came from a small village which practiced superstitions and myths. These practices are not a part of Hinduism but “ancient India”. One who follows true aspect of Hinduism doesn’t need any of these practices.e.g Meditation, yoga, pranayaam doesn’t need any of these practices.
Thus, instead of knowing the true aspects of Hinduism and teaching the same to you village when you go back home, you are distorting it further and degrading your own intellect? If your father wears dirty clothes, will you demean him? Will you judge him by the clothes he wears or the love and knowledge he has for you?
Similarly, Vedas do not divide the humanity between hindus and non-hindus. It teaches about dharma which is defined as righteousness, duty, ethics etc and the ideals of ahimsa. Thus we have the four varnas
1) Bhrahmins : Who are the intellectual protectors of the society. It is analogous to scientists, researchers, doctors, mathematicians etc.
2) Kshatriyas : Warriors. The Indian army irrespective of religion, is kshatriya. Any army in the world represents kshatriya.
3) Vaishyas : The business class. e.g Dirubhai ambani, jewellers etc
4) Shudras : Unskilled labourers
Cast system is an invention of people of low intelligence. It is not a part of hinduism. What is mentioned is the class system (or varna system) NOT cast system. Similarly, dowry, sati pratha etc are not a part of Hinduism but later distortions that took place in Indian history. These practices are not even mentioned in the Vedas.
Similarly, the questions you asked are a part of ancient India and not Hinduism. These practices change over time and like I stated, people of thailand (mostly hindus) and Nepal (mostly Hindus) have different set of such practices.
Try to follow your heart and read these scriptures. Read the works of Aurobindi, Upanishads, Gita, Veda etc to know what Hinduism is and not by what people do. What Vedas teach and what most of the Hindus do is completely different. Buddha was against animal killing. But look at japan and China. Most of the Japanese and Chinese eat meat and even insects. So what Buddha taught is completely different from how Chinese and japanese behave.
So do read and if you love your village, then you’ll seek the truth and teach the truth to your village too! I hope you’ll make your father proud by giving him the knowledge you recieve from the Vedas and Upanishads and not the distorted versions that you recieve by “watching and observing people”.
Sri why dont you try to read this article first before commenting on things which you seem to lack knowledge on and which had nothing to do with this article in the first place
Sir, I am not sure what thought of mine making you provide big write ups.
It not about that you are bad or I am bad if we don’t agree on somethings. You seem to be great learner and experienced.
You follow what you have been following and I follow the same what I have been following.
To my knowledge what we have been discussing is, save something and help some body.
“Loka samastha Sukhino bhavantu”.
Surely not destroying and harm others and for
So lets stop our discussion here.
Regards,
sridhar.
The opinion I have formed by following a article comment to the great matriarch of Hindu philosophy who lacked the skill in communicating vedantist knowledge by invoking a debate on Hinduism. religion is not debatable.Too much knowledge and no cahrether
Too much knowledge and no character is useless and dangerous.To Arjun comparing a woman to dogs and cartoon characters violates somebodies mother,sister, daughter and wife,it is a pure reflection of your biased opinion and pray for your salvation.Sai ram.
*character
It’s funny how the people who share Indian origin names are feuding via words where I can see a
post from western named person condemning Hindus and their beliefs which has yet to be challenged by our so called “warriors”. they feel free to attack their fellow hindus who have left respectable opinions relating to the article above. To even have the adaucity to use vulgar language
on the same page that two very prominent figures appear ( mother Theresa and sathya Sai baba) is
shameful and you should very well be ashamed of yourselves!
Also girdhar seemed to have a vast amount of knowledge but seems as though instead of voicing an opinion he/she has used this forum as a platform for displaying his/her’s ego! Reading books alone does not equate for you to belittle others views.shouldn’t you learn to respect rather than criticise fellow man? This is not an education site in theology. Use your knowledge wisely instead wasting time on comment pages and maybe You might be doing more for society you live in rather than sitting behind a computer! For someone who has said I rely on western researchers than why are you using western technology,I.e computer, considering you are so pro ancient thinking? Typing a long discourse and than having the gall to call me a “Christian missionary with max muller syndrome” let alone displays how primitive you are in your thinking, because as far as I recall no where in Hinduism
or swamis teachings is there predijuce against others..than why one as supposedly as learned as
you practises it. Pathetic..and pls spare us any further discourses and make valid comments about
the article ratherinf than comdemming others.
BTW this article is not only for India but is around the world so pls show some decorum. Sai ram
“it is a pure reflection of your biased opinion and pray for your salvation.Sai ram.”
Whats Salvation got to do with Hinduism ? Are you a Roman catholic nun ?